1. Philip Teitelbaum's taped recollections (also on this segment: Kaufman and the cheder)

Philip Teitelbaum's taped recollections Note: audio is ON Philip: Herman. Herman lived on ah Marquette Street, on the uh south east corner. Yeah, Marquette Street. And I just remember that they were in the taxi, that they were taxi drivers of that family. I mean, I see them, you know? Peter: Remember the kids? Philip: I see two kids but I can’t remember much. The kids were a lot older than me. I mean I see two son a lot older than me. Peter: Like how much more? Philip: Much older than me. (Perry Guralnick told me that the Hermans did well in the taxi business, eventually owning a fleet. He said there was one son who was called "Hockey" Herman.) Peter: Because I wondered about another family here in Ottawa but that wouldn’t be the case. And Kaufman? Were there Kaufman’s on Marquette? Philip: Yeah, there was a Kaufman on Marquette who was right across with Talmud Torah, or the cheder. Um, and had like a store where you could buy coffee and cokes and chips and… like a little general store. Peter: That cheder, was that just an afternoon, after-school thing? Philip: It was an afternoon school thing. Shirley: It was a lunchtime thing too. Philip: A cheder? Shirley: Oh sorry, I thought you were talking about the restaurant. Philip: No. The cheder was um, an after… it wasn’t a… I don’t know, nobody went there fulltime, but it was a large place. Peter: Empty during the day? Philip: Empty during the day. I only remember it was empty during the day. Kids went after. There was a basement and there was a cheder with rooms and there was a hall. And um… there’s another fact. I remember Morris Bryant who’s at Hillel now, coming there as part of AZA giving a talk there at that cheder. [Note this may be the Y. Herman who wrote The Pinkas, an account of the comings and goings of the Red Shul.] The teacher's name was Elimelech. Once Hillu Diamond came to the door and asked for Rabbi Elimelech and squirted him with a water pistol. Hillu ended up as a terrific violinist. I remember the father chasing through the all of Papineau looking for him because the teacher was there but Hillu wasn't. A bit wild but a terrific kid. I'm not sure if we learned Hebrew only at Mrs Wolofsky's or here too.

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